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0008770VALENTINA SERVERPrefs Panepublic2020-06-17 07:06
ReporterBeatrix WilliusAssigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008770: Not possible to restart VServer in PrefsPane
DescriptionI changed some properties in Valentina Studio. Then I wanted to restart the server in the PrefsPane. The PrefsPane gets stuck in "starting" and the server isn't running. The shell scripts work. Result of new Catalina security in 10.15.4?
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Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-12 14:45


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Ivan Smahin

Ivan Smahin

2020-04-13 09:58

manager   ~0011210

1. Do you rename vServer? (mobile_backup_status_server on the pict above?)
So the problem is - vServer has been started, but pref panel does not show it?
If so - how vServer was started - via pref panel or another way?

2. Send me please your /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.paradigmasoft.vserver_x64.plist
Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-13 10:03

reporter   ~0011211

I tried to restart Valentina Server with the PrefsPane. I just clicked on Stop and then on Start. The server did not start. I usually start Valentina Server with the PrefsPane.
Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-13 11:20

reporter   ~0011213

Yup, that works fine. Or you would have heard me screaming very loudly.

Instead of the small dialog to enter the password there is now a dialog box "Legacy Loader wants to make changes" (see screenshot). That's the reason I think it's a Catalina security problem.

Screenshot 2020-04-13 at 13.16.58.png (27,895 bytes)
Ivan Smahin

Ivan Smahin

2020-04-13 11:21

manager   ~0011214

Well, let me summarise

1. vServer is able to be started directly (not as a daemon).
2. "Starting" in pref.pane means - plist is loaded, but no working vServer (as described in plist) found in running processes.

No idea for now - it works like a charm on my side.
What have you changed ("I changed some properties in Valentina Studio.") - probably it matters?
Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-13 11:30

reporter   ~0011215

Are you using Catalina? Do you see the legacyLoader dialog box?

My installation of vServer was fresh when I saw the problem the first time.
Ivan Smahin

Ivan Smahin

2020-04-13 11:53

manager   ~0011216

Yes, I guess it's from Catalina's security improvements. vServer pref.pane is not a dedicated app. It works on behalf of System, which is now "secured" system app (I can not even debug our panel).
Ivan Smahin

Ivan Smahin

2020-04-13 12:00

manager   ~0011217

Last edited: 2020-04-13 12:01

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BTW, the dialog you see - it is not something like a Catalina magic. We just stop asking the password in own dialogs and do it now in recommended way - using Apple's Authentication Manager APIs (In other words vServer panel does not know your password anymore).

Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-13 12:10

reporter   ~0011218

Using official dialogs is good. A dialog "legacyLoader" likely isn't current API.

I was told to use an XPC service after my authorization code didn't work ( However, I never tried that because I cheated with AppleScript. Which I need to test again on Catalina.
Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-04-14 10:08

reporter   ~0011219

My AppleScript kludge is still working on Catalina. I don't expect that to work in Catalina times 2.

You still have sudo in your script. Anything that calls the script as it is can't work.
Beatrix Willius

Beatrix Willius

2020-06-17 07:06

reporter   ~0011331

Problem still exists in latest version. I can now see the text and Valentina does something. But the button doesn't change and when clicking it again I get an error message about stopping.

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Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2020-04-12 14:45 Beatrix Willius New Issue
2020-04-12 14:45 Beatrix Willius File Added: Screenshot 2020-04-12 at 16.40.14.png
2020-04-12 14:45 Beatrix Willius File Added: Screenshot 2020-04-12 at 16.42.03.png
2020-04-13 09:58 Ivan Smahin Note Added: 0011210
2020-04-13 10:03 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011211
2020-04-13 11:20 Beatrix Willius File Added: Screenshot 2020-04-13 at 13.16.58.png
2020-04-13 11:20 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011213
2020-04-13 11:21 Ivan Smahin Note Added: 0011214
2020-04-13 11:30 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011215
2020-04-13 11:53 Ivan Smahin Note Added: 0011216
2020-04-13 12:00 Ivan Smahin Note Added: 0011217
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2020-04-13 12:10 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011218
2020-04-14 10:08 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011219
2020-06-17 07:06 Beatrix Willius File Added: val.png
2020-06-17 07:06 Beatrix Willius Note Added: 0011331